Bunny Rugs: Lead Vocal Steven (Cat) Core: Lead Guitar and Vocal, Richard Dailey: Bass Guitar
Buba: Welcome to black Vibes and tunes. How did it all come about with Third world and how does it develop from the beginning?
Bunny Rugs: Well it does not take two years. Third world was formed in 1973 by Cat core and he still in the Band. We have fifteen Albums up to now. We are signed to Island record. We went to CBS Record, Poly Gram Record. Now we have our own Record Company “ I man Record”. We have just finished up our last album “Generation Coming” recorded in Jamaica and Miami. The first single is entitled “Reggae Party” Featuring Shaggy, Bounty Killer and some new kids called Dangerous Melodies.
Richard Dailey: Third world was one of da first if I can da first democratic band from Jamaica you know. We are six people different time get together and it was a system of the majority vote like say if we are doing a song or writing a song or doing some project is majority vibes that count say we do it or not. It loves the house, a good commentary. These are the basic third world vibes.
Buba: Why do you name the group Third world?
Richard: Well in 1973 when the group was formed Jamaica was going through a new political face. We had ah prime minister by the name of Michel Manley who past away a couple of years ago. He was going into power and changes were taking place you know, major changes like I can say like ah old school was going out and ah new vibe was coming in. I consider that a third world leader in the whole political arena with the other Caribbean islands and all da other so called third world countries. We were very closed to that kind of vibes at the time, you know. We were like leaving 19 going into 20 years old. We just start in a band. Every thing was just about new. We came out to that whole birth of thing, you know waa ah mean. Reggae music was before us still. Yeh, people like Tooth’s and Bob marley etc we were like a young vibe then and are going to take it to another level. We made a lot of new changes in that whole Reggae forum add it up part to it created what is called a third world vibe.
Buba: How was the paste?
Richard: Determination because amen we did not get what you called a great support from parents at that time because no other band or you know, musician from Jamaica had any kind of success that one could look back an say well yes you might able to make a living here or support a family. It was just really tough, you know. So the obstacle you have to get from your parent. We were upsets with it. We were opsess with to play music to make our name our mark, you know. We are kind a get support from the people like Bob Marley and Peter Tosh who would come-by and say, “Yes, Youth you doing da right thing. We hold to Bob Marley. We did some recording with him. We toured with Peter Tosh in Santaba and California. All different kind na things, so you know. It was kind of embracing.
Buba You sang a song 96°. What is the lyric about?
Bunny Rugs: 96° is a tune. It is a song about Poul Bugle who was a Jamaican national hero. He was hang by the English in 1865.It is not a story that we made up. It is a true thing that happened in Jamaica. It is like Culture sings about Mucus Gravy; well that song is about Paul Bugle.
Buba: How could it be forbidden if it is love?
Bunny Rugs: Richard Daily and Rupert Bent wrote the song. He can tell you more about it (laughter).
Richard: Well when you write or putting up tunes together you know Topics, vibes, stories, experience, things that you see, things that you see people go through. When you see an experience it kin of a leave you a statement inside you like saying jeh how could that be if it that be. You know say you gat a kin of controversy going on and a song birth outta it.
Buba: You sang political issues, food for the children love the younger one build a better future for the new generation. How do you see the reggae business now?
Cat Core: Well reggae business now is ruling on. You have plenty people in it. It is a big industry. Plenty people have jobs and have eat food out of it. So you find out all kin na different things are happening. Some people still do it the way third world have always done it: Jimmy cliff and Steel Pulse who were the veteran in the business now. All of us have been in the business for over 20years now. We have one style in which we do it and we fi hae fi continue with it. Now you have the other style the Dance Hall and more modern style you know that going on too. You can really say well any one of them is wrong. It is music. It is the expression of people. Some of it I don’t really some of it I like it very much but I don’t really fight it you know wa am sayin.
Buba: Moving from Third world to inner circle or from inner circle to third world. What was the scenario? Well Inner Circle was the first big band that I played with. I joined Inner Circle when I was about 13. I stayed in the band until I was 18 and then formed Third World with some other guys. I won’t say it was any thing magical or mystical about it. It was a group of musician. A good band, they had a good equipment which was the very important thing at that time. When I just grow up. I have never seen an equalizer much more a guitar. I did not know what dem thing was. So being able to have that at my disposal to play and being in a band with other members like Rogger Luis and Luis Douglas Grog try and those guys were serious about music. I was very serious about music. Because I knew that was going to be my life from my very early life. It is just being in one band and things happen and the move to another band. It is no big thing fight or mash up. The music keeps me going. It is like world cup. It is big thing.
Buba: I understood you are the sun of the then finance minister in the Michel manley government.
Cat: The then.
Buba: ya, the then. Do you have to jump the bullies from the police in Kingston?
Cat: No sir. I thank god I never have to run away from the police. It sound like a nice ferry tale but it is not true.
Buba: You sang a song “Lagos Jump”. Were you in Nigeria?
Cat: We were been to Nigeria two times. We had a very good enlightening experience there. I glad to say that it looks like democracy is coming back to Nigeria. I hoping that it will really happen the people of Nigeria will jet democracy. You see Africa has too many countries were da Army is ruler. That is not right. A military man is trained to do military things. Fire gun and jump over wall, scrolled in the mud and fight for your country. That is what a military man is supposed to do. But you have to have people with experience in various fields. If you goanna builds up hospitals you need doctors to help you design that you know. If you need airport you need good ingénues to show you how to do it properly. You can’t take military man and do dem work dey. I can see that democracy is coming in with a very strongly force in Nigeria. So give thanks for that. Lagos Jump now was a time when no military was ruling in Nigeria when I went there still the first time. We are talking about our experience in Nigeria Sitting on the sidewalk. The good thing we had there, you know.
Buba: Anywhere else in Africa.
Cat Core: We were in Uganda in 1997. We had a good tour there. I want to tell the people of Uganda big up and give thanks. Uganda nice you know. I they go back still dey you know.
Buba: Today is your birthday. What do you have for the fans of Third World and to whole reggae lovers?
Richard: Tune in to www.thirdband world.com. Keep in touch with the band. We have a chart room, e-mail and tour information and news update.
Buba: If you were not a musician what would be your profession?
Cat: A cricketer.
Buba: Message to the youth dem.
Cat: My message to dem is that just try to do what you thinking in your mind is right. Don’t fight against each other. Live for love, peace and harmony. Enjoy the life that god has given to you.